Anyway, for me that podcast was definitely listenable, so I went to check what tutorials that second host (the one who is not putting them behind paywalls) is producing.
Turns out, I saw one of his videos a couple of weeks ago, when Gatsby came out of beta. What that guy did was just download Gatsby and start doing some most basic things with it on camera. Said he just wanted to try it out without bothering to read the docs.
Dang, was I annoyed! I couldn't believe anyone who wants to be taken seriously would do such a thing. I couldn't imagine why anyone would immediately start broadcasting his baby steps with a piece of software before getting a strong grasp of it. I couldn't believe anyone would watch this crap (though hundreds of someones certainly did). I thought I would never watch that clown again.
And then there was me listening to that podcast and thinking to myself that that was a decent conversation those two were having, and how I should probably listen to another episode.
Funny thing, the first impression.