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Q: So in fact, you’re saying that the goal here is to make it painful on the Russian people?
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Part of how that happens is the people of Russia say, look, I don’t want to not have access to the international financial system because President Putin is off trying to invade other countries. That’s part of what can affect a leader’s calculation, which I know you’re very well aware of.
Риторика, исходящая из того, что они имеют дело с демократической страной. И вообще, неплохое обсуждение здесь: