But it’s not Todd’s recent misfortunes that interested me; it’s how Murray recalls that first encounter with her:
During my on-air introduction the interviewer decided to mention my schooling. I spied a potential problem. When the explosion came it was of its type: one of those gaseous side eruptions in which Etonians figured prominently. If memory serves, I politely responded that I had obviously been rather better brought up than my fellow guest and so would not reply in kind. Straight away I knew two things: that I had acquired a new enemy and that I had ruined the programme. After all, it’s not what you’re meant to do. When the BBC prepares a cockfight, you are meant to play your part, collect your fifty quid and ask to be invited back once the bruise has subsided. If you fold your arms and say you’re not playing, the BBC doesn’t have a show.
As it happens, the recording of that BBC program is available online. I am not sure quite what the significance of the point they were debating was, but the "gaseous side eruption" happens at the end of minute 38 (38:50) of a 45-minute programme. The "I would not reply in kind" response by Murray takes place at 41 minutes 50 seconds — of a 45-minute, need I repeat, program. His suggestion that by doing so he "ruined the programme" is borderline delusional.