I remember when Christopher Hitchens wrote about it in his autobiography, and he talked about when someone asked him to fill out a form, and it says what’s your race, he’ll put 'human'. And he believed in this ideal ... of color-blindness. And that actually _is_ the ideal. [...] Race should be something that we should aspire not to notice. And that’s not to say that you don’t actually notice, in the way that you notice that someone’s left-handed or right-handed, and you make provisions accordingly. You just don’t treat them differently. It doesn’t even cross your mind to treat people differently on the basis of their race, and gender, and sexuality. That’s where we should be. And I feel like we were almost there. I feel like we weren’t completely there, like, when I was growing up, there were racists, there were homophobes, I was on the receiving end of it. It was there, but we reached the momentum point, where if we just let things go, we would have... I am not saying... You can never sort those things out entirely. But we were in a really great position, and we’ve just unpicked all of that work, and we’ve cultivated a society that is really damaging to race relations. It really upsets me.
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